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Welcome to Sober Banter.
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I am posting solo, but I am not solo today.
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I have a guest and I'm pretty excited because I really like his Instagram account.
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This is the voice behind,
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well,
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technically you have two,
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but the main one that I think we connected off of is the office recovery.
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And
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There's so much more to you than just like who's running this office recovery
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account on Instagram.
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Not only are you Brenton,
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a former pastor,
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the voice of the office recovery and passionate advocate for compassionate
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leadership,
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as well as faith,
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humor,
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and healing to help others.
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So welcome to the show.
Brenton Sconce (00:00:48):
Thank you.
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Thank you so much for having me.
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This is awesome.
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One opportunity.
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Absolute honor.
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Oh, well, thank you.
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I still feel so new in the podcasting world,
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but when I was reading some,
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some of the things about you,
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I'm like,
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you have such a unique,
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interesting story and you seem very parallel till Colin and I are just all about
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the humor.
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And I think that's what office is one of our, and always sunny the office.
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Uh, I mean, we can re watch those literally every single day and not get bored of the reruns.
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Yeah.
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And it's that or Arrested Development.
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That's another one on our list.
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And when we got sober, we were so scared it was going to be boring.
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And it's not.
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It's really, really not.
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No, you catch like all the little nuances that you didn't even catch before.
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I know.
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In the office, there's not a lot of drinking either.
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So some of the shows like Always Sunny, it's based in a bar.
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Right.
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But anyways,
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I will let you kind of introduce yourself and how you got here and what got you
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sober and your sobriety date and whatnot.
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It was in July of 22 is what I know.
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And I'll let you take it from there.
Brenton Sconce (00:01:51):
Yeah, absolutely.
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So yeah, my name is Brenton and my sober date is July 24th of 22.
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My journey to sobriety was through the rehab treatment center route.
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So that's kind of the direction that I started out with.
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I did detox and residential at a treatment center in my hometown here.
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And then following that,
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I did some intensive outpatient for 12 weeks and then another outpatient stent for
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90 days.
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And at the end of that 90 days, the treatment center that I went to
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said, well, you're basically an alumni now.
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You can just come back whenever you'd like and attend classes and group sessions
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and things like that.
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So I did that for another probably three or four months.
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So all in all, my experience with the treatment center was just shy of a full year.
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I do want to ask when you say hometown, like where are what state are you in?
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I hadn't even asked that.
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Oh, yeah.
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I'm in Washington.
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Yeah.
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Eastern Washington.
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So that's kind of how my sobriety journey started.
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And there's obviously a whole bunch of stuff that leads up to getting me to a point
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where I'm like,
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I need help.
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And that's very much how my my story was.
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I was I got to a point where there was a moment of clarity where I literally texted
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my wife and said,
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I think I'm an alcoholic.
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And I need help.
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And that's all I said.
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And I was able to connect with a friend who had just gotten out of treatment
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himself about six months prior.
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And so he was able to kind of connect me with the treatment center here.
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And that was a Saturday morning.
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And by Monday morning,
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I was in detox and residential and was there for two and a half,
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three weeks.
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So that's kind of how it started.
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The office recovery started about a year after that.
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Yeah.
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It takes time.
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Like things like this,
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we didn't start till three years sober,
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you know,
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cause it's,
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of course we went to meetings and talked about it with other people,
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but like on an online platform,
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you're still,
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there is a little scare of like,
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Whoa,
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what am I,
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you know,
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just putting now I should back up.
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I have been online from pretty much like month one and on, but how did you, I I'm very curious.
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How did you feel texting that?
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Like saying to your wife, like, I think I'm an alcoholic, you know, um,
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That would have hit me like bricks.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And I mean, obviously, we've we've talked about it all.
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And she had obviously suspicions.
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And there's a lot of stuff going on there that she was like, OK, something's off.
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Something's not right.
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And I mean,
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I was at the point where there's a lot of medical stuff going on that I was trying
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to just explain away.
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And there was a lot of hiding, a lot of deception, things like that going on.
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And that's really where I started to see a turn in myself where I see all those
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behavioral changes that just weren't me like and and I couldn't stop.
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And so I knew I needed external intervention and I knew I needed to get somewhere.
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That would,
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you know,
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essentially force me into sobriety because I wouldn't have been able to stop on my
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own.
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And sending the text, you know, it.
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I cried the first time I said I was alcoholic.
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Like, I mean, and not like a big like sob.
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It was at a meeting and you introduced yourself and I'm like, my name's Rachel.
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And it was my second meeting.
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The first one, they didn't go around the room.
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And like, I will never forget it.
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I can tell you what chair, where I was in the room.
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And it just, it hit hard.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, being able to kind of say it and admit it was definitely a huge thing.
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I mean, at the time, I mean, when I texted it, you know, I wasn't sober when I texted it.
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I was going to ask.
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I'm like, yeah, that's usually the I called for help when I was drunk, too.
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So, I mean, you know, it's like you wake up and you're like, that was I don't know.
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But now you've the cards are there.
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Yeah.
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Yeah,
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and I had,
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I mean,
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I texted that and we had started the ball rolling so quickly to find a place for me
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and get me in a spot that by the time,
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you know,
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I really sobered up,
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like the train was leaving the station and I was like,
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all right,
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I'm in for this thing.
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And,
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you know,
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granted,
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once I was in detox and stuff,
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there was a couple of days right at the beginning where I was like,
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oh,
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I don't need this.
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You know,
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I got this under control and,
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you know,
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was going to AMA and just leave the treatment center.
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And I, you know, thankfully I didn't.
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Yeah.
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And then it was absolutely life changing for me, that whole experience.
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But yeah,
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texting the message,
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I'm an alcoholic and I need help,
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was very much just a moment of clarity and
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there's kind of a radical vulnerability in it that I didn't notice at the time,
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but it,
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it was absolutely just a grace that I,
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I was able to text that and,
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and send it.
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Cause that's what got everything started.
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Yeah, no.
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And I think with recovery and in your experience,
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you can share,
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I think going,
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jumping on it is what you should do.
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If someone is calling and asking for help with addiction, that window can be so small that you,
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even like you said a few days in you're like i don't know if i need this like this
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is this is kind of crazy and i think had mine not moved as fast as it did i could
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have probably talked myself out of it and been like because i wasn't a rock bottom
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i didn't lose i wasn't homeless i wasn't i mean internally 100 rock bottom like i
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do not ever want to go back there never but if you looked at my life like
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living wise yeah i hadn't like i still had my my son i was still married have a
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house car the things that don't you know but that's what people like look at
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they're like well if i'm able to do this then i might not have a problem and so i
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think getting as quickly as you can to like
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get help.
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Do you think that seeing your friend that six months prior had gotten help
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influenced anything that that was kind of in the back of your mind of like,
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you know,
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it,
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it may have been,
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I just remember,
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you know,
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at the time I was at a point where like,
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You know,
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in recovery,
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they'll talk about how essentially,
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you know,
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the addiction gets to such a level that the addict almost wishes they were caught.
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Like they just, they need a way out and they don't know how to get a way out.
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And like I say to,
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you know,
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the folks that I talk to,
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when it comes to that moment of clarity,
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like,
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Like you just said,
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you've got to act on it in that moment because as soon as that passes,
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there's no guarantee that you get another one.
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And we've heard far too many stories that have ended tragically because folks
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haven't acted in that moment of clarity.
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And so I always remind folks that if...
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If you have even just the faintest like inkling that there's a problem or that
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there's something or you get this glimpse like for for me,
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I got this glimpse of really of what was to come of like what my life is going to
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be like if I keep going down this road.
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And it's going to you know,
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it's going to be the loss of everything that I really,
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really,
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truly,
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you know,
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deep down loved.
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And I think it was just the glimpse of that that kind of shook me enough to send that text.
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But yeah,
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so the moment of clarity,
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you act on it,
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and then you just kind of go from there and submit to whatever's happening.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And kind of like the acceptance is the hardest probably part.
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And then it's the rebuilding from there.
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Yeah.
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So you were a pastor or are, I don't know.
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I saw that you're getting your MBA in leadership, which is awesome.
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I think people in recovery just are great leaders because...
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we have been to the low of lows and like being able seeing someone walk in on day
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one and then seeing them at one year like it is the most rewarding experience like
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you know not that it's just really cool so leadership is it's kind of like doing
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something you love because encouraging others so how did you kind of go from
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Pastor, was that pre-sobriety?
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And then talk about where your timeline kind of went with that.
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You look really young for pastor.
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Yeah, I was a young pastor.
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So yeah, it was pre-sobriety.
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It was pre really the giant jump into my active addiction.
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But the pastoral ministry that I was a part of
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I led a church just north of Seattle for several years.
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And the ending of that,
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although it was my decision to step away from that position,
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the ending of that was what really brought all of the internal struggle that I had
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been suppressing really to the forefront.
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And for whatever reason, that was kind of the cataclysmic catalyst, if you will, that
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that kind of crashed everything in, into, you know, my soul, I guess, where I,
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all the internal thoughts of failure and not living up and expectations and
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perfectionism and all of those kinds of things became no longer avoidable.
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And so it was,
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you know,
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as a result of stepping away from that role where I thought that was kind of,
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that was my dream position.
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It's what I had gone to school for initially.
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It's what, you know, I had been trained in and that's where my passion in my heart was.
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And so to have that end,
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even though I was the one that made the call,
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there was still this just nagging sense of failure.
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And it just kind of overwhelmed me.
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And that's where my active addiction really launched in.
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And I think there was both an escapism aspect to it,
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where I was trying to escape the reality of what I was experiencing and feeling.
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That kind of morphed into this,
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you know,
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misguided,
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I think I need alcohol to show up a certain way.
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I think I need alcohol to be a certain way in front of people.
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And so it kind of became that thing.
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And then it became a daily thing and a daily dependence.
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And then it became, you know, physical.
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And then, you know, and then I think it becomes deeply, deeply spiritual as well.
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And it hooks you and slowly, slowly kills you.
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So the pastoral side was,
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yeah,
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pre,
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I still drank as a pastor,
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but very much socially,
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just out with dinner,
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you know,
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every once in a while,
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that kind of thing.
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But yeah,
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it was really the collapse of,
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I guess,
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the,
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you know,
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the paradigm of what I thought my world was going to be.
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And I didn't know how to cope.
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with it.
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And so I quickly found that drinking allowed me to both escape and then also on the
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flip side show up in a way that I thought I needed to show up for people rather
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than being myself.
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Yeah.
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And is your wife in the program or she is one of the normal drinkers that doesn't
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really have a problem with it or?
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Yeah, she's yeah, she's a normie.
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Yeah.
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So she does.
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She still drinks very, very rarely, but she has been an amazing person.
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support and encouragement to me in the journey.
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I mean, you know, we don't keep alcohol in the house or anything like that.
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She doesn't drink around me.
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You know, it's very it's very rare for her to have a drink.
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But yeah,
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she we talk and joke about all the time how like she's never wondered if she had a
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problem with alcohol,
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like
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Or I remember even dating,
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like she would just like order a beer and then drink half of it and leave it and be
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like,
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just chill.
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And I'm like, what?
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What are you doing?
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Leaving this thing?
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Just sitting here like this is liquid gold.
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And I remember back then even thinking like, this is nutso.
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Like, how can you just walk away from this?
Brenton Sconce (00:13:07):
And I mean, that should have been that should have been a clue right there.
Brenton Sconce (00:13:10):
But but yeah, so she's she's a normie, but she's been
Brenton Sconce (00:13:13):
Yeah, absolutely amazing and incredible.
Brenton Sconce (00:13:16):
And it hasn't been without,
Brenton Sconce (00:13:18):
you know,
Brenton Sconce (00:13:18):
obvious rough times and a lot that we've had to work through and a lot that I've
Brenton Sconce (00:13:22):
had to work through rebuilding trust and kind of rebuilding a life that I started
Brenton Sconce (00:13:27):
to tear apart.
Brenton Sconce (00:13:28):
And
Rachel Casey (00:13:29):
She probably sees the change too,
Rachel Casey (00:13:30):
just because like,
Rachel Casey (00:13:31):
it's not just alcoholics who can see a change.
Rachel Casey (00:13:34):
I mean, we probably feel it on a very deep level because we understand that inner feeling.
Rachel Casey (00:13:39):
It's just like any other relation that can't really understand baseball things if
Rachel Casey (00:13:45):
you're not playing baseball,
Rachel Casey (00:13:46):
but you understand if like,
Rachel Casey (00:13:47):
so I think there is a deeper level,
Rachel Casey (00:13:49):
but.
Rachel Casey (00:13:50):
it didn't take much time before other people that have no addiction issues were
Rachel Casey (00:13:55):
like whoa you have a a different aura a glow a you know it's yeah so i'm sure it
Rachel Casey (00:14:03):
was pretty easy for her to see like she wants to so i haven't found any partner who
Rachel Casey (00:14:09):
doesn't want to support unless they have a drinking problem themselves and they're
Rachel Casey (00:14:14):
mad and resentful that they are losing their drinking buddy
Rachel Casey (00:14:17):
yeah yeah and that's probably how it would have been had colin and i not got sober
Rachel Casey (00:14:23):
together again that was very serendipitous that was very i have no idea how we have
Rachel Casey (00:14:28):
the same sobriety date but uh we would drink each other under the table so i'm like
Rachel Casey (00:14:34):
i know and it was funny in recovery because i know the kind of drinker he is and he
Rachel Casey (00:14:38):
knows the kind of drinker i am and so like there was no bullshitting each other you
Rachel Casey (00:14:42):
know there was no this is kind of how it was he's like no i was there yes it was
Rachel Casey (00:14:48):
bad and which i think is why we like comedy so much because there's a couple ways
Rachel Casey (00:14:55):
you can go about looking at your past and we choose to laugh about it and
Rachel Casey (00:15:01):
there's a time to be serious, obviously like our first year or he'll even talk about it.
Rachel Casey (00:15:06):
My first year, like I didn't think anything about recovery was funny.
Rachel Casey (00:15:09):
It was very serious.
Rachel Casey (00:15:10):
It was life and death.
Rachel Casey (00:15:11):
I was very hot and cold,
Rachel Casey (00:15:14):
which no surprise I'm alcoholic,
Rachel Casey (00:15:15):
but now I,
Rachel Casey (00:15:18):
I mean,
Rachel Casey (00:15:18):
it's really hard not to.
Rachel Casey (00:15:19):
So how do you incorporate humor in your recovery?
Brenton Sconce (00:15:23):
Yeah.
Brenton Sconce (00:15:24):
So that's a great, yeah.
Brenton Sconce (00:15:25):
Great segue to, you know, why I created office recovery.
Brenton Sconce (00:15:28):
Like it,
Brenton Sconce (00:15:29):
kind of birthed out of my time in the treatment center where
Brenton Sconce (00:15:32):
Like at the end of every week,
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we could all like that,
Brenton Sconce (00:15:34):
like all the people in the center could choose a movie to watch or whatever for the
Brenton Sconce (00:15:38):
end of the night,
Brenton Sconce (00:15:39):
instead of like a final group session.
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And one of the things I noticed was almost every time unanimously,
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everyone would vote on some sort of a comedy.
Brenton Sconce (00:15:48):
And so it just got me thinking while I was in there, I was like, what is it about humor?
Brenton Sconce (00:15:53):
Like there's gotta be more to humor than just simply a momentary escape from
Brenton Sconce (00:15:58):
reality that keeps drawing like
Brenton Sconce (00:16:01):
these people in the treatment center that you would
Brenton Sconce (00:16:05):
I mean, they're at the bottom of the bottom, right, if they're in there, and I'm one of them.
Brenton Sconce (00:16:10):
And what is it that keeps drawing us back into humor?
Brenton Sconce (00:16:13):
And so that got me kind of on a path and a journey of researching what it is about
Brenton Sconce (00:16:19):
humor that's actually healing.
Brenton Sconce (00:16:21):
And in my research,
Brenton Sconce (00:16:23):
I mean,
Brenton Sconce (00:16:25):
there's so many studies out there that show not only on the neurological side and
Brenton Sconce (00:16:30):
the neuroplasticity side of what humor can do to reshape our
Brenton Sconce (00:16:33):
our brain and rewire our neurons.
Brenton Sconce (00:16:35):
But it has a ton of benefits when it comes to anti-fragility,
Brenton Sconce (00:16:39):
when it comes to community building,
Brenton Sconce (00:16:41):
when it comes to being able to address the trauma of our past.
Brenton Sconce (00:16:46):
If we are enveloping ourselves in humor,
Brenton Sconce (00:16:49):
we're able to see those events a little bit outside of itself and be able to
Brenton Sconce (00:16:55):
actually walk through those,
Brenton Sconce (00:16:56):
you know,
Brenton Sconce (00:16:56):
maybe those traumatic events that shaped
Brenton Sconce (00:16:58):
who we've become.
Brenton Sconce (00:17:00):
So there's a ton of benefits to humor when it comes to specifically the recovery process.
Brenton Sconce (00:17:07):
So a year into my sober journey,
Brenton Sconce (00:17:10):
I was watching The Office like I always do because it's always on repeat.
Brenton Sconce (00:17:14):
And it has been since early 2000s.
Brenton Sconce (00:17:16):
And I was like, you know, The Office is like the funniest show in the world.
Brenton Sconce (00:17:19):
Like that's a hill I will die on.
Brenton Sconce (00:17:21):
The Office is the greatest TV show ever created.
Brenton Sconce (00:17:24):
And so I was like, I want to combine The Office with...
Brenton Sconce (00:17:29):
recovery and there were so many memes that I started to like think about that I was
Brenton Sconce (00:17:34):
like oh that's like that's hilarious to me and it really started out with like this
Brenton Sconce (00:17:38):
is a joke for myself to just like post these and yeah and people have you know
Brenton Sconce (00:17:43):
responded to it and it's developed into this thing where it's been an absolutely
Brenton Sconce (00:17:47):
beautiful connection with so many people where not only are they
Brenton Sconce (00:17:51):
able to kind of get a laugh out of the memes and it kind of brings them back to the
Brenton Sconce (00:17:55):
episodes that it's referencing.
Brenton Sconce (00:17:56):
But I've been able to have some really like intense and deep and real conversations with people.
Brenton Sconce (00:18:01):
And I think that's the beauty of humor is it can lighten the load just enough
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for you to take that next right step.
Brenton Sconce (00:18:08):
And it can also connect you with people that you otherwise probably never would
Brenton Sconce (00:18:12):
have engaged with.
Brenton Sconce (00:18:14):
And so then when that connection is made,
Brenton Sconce (00:18:16):
I mean,
Brenton Sconce (00:18:16):
then you're walking side by side with somebody through life.
Brenton Sconce (00:18:20):
And that's,
Brenton Sconce (00:18:21):
I mean,
Brenton Sconce (00:18:21):
that's massive in general,
Brenton Sconce (00:18:24):
but in the recovery space,
Brenton Sconce (00:18:25):
that's absolutely essential.
Brenton Sconce (00:18:28):
And so that's where office recovery was born.
Brenton Sconce (00:18:30):
And that's kind of where humor comes into play for it.
Brenton Sconce (00:18:33):
And I like what you said earlier that
Brenton Sconce (00:18:35):
There, there are certainly times that are serious.
Brenton Sconce (00:18:38):
There's a lot of times like, for a while, my tagline was recovery is hard enough as it is.
Brenton Sconce (00:18:43):
Like, it's, it is a heavy thing.
Brenton Sconce (00:18:46):
I mean, you're, you're morphing into the person you were meant to be.
Brenton Sconce (00:18:51):
And
Brenton Sconce (00:18:53):
that you know that transformation doesn't come without pain you know and it's it's
Brenton Sconce (00:18:58):
like a a surgeon coming in with a scalpel and and cutting off the parts of you that
Brenton Sconce (00:19:04):
no longer serve you and and that doesn't feel good and so there's a lot of
Brenton Sconce (00:19:08):
heaviness there's a lot of pain and a lot of trauma in the recovery world and um
Brenton Sconce (00:19:14):
And if I can help or if we can kind of embrace this aspect of either looking at our
Brenton Sconce (00:19:18):
past humorously or just being able to shape present circumstances with a little bit
Brenton Sconce (00:19:23):
of humor and be able to smile and laugh,
Brenton Sconce (00:19:26):
and especially on a hard,
Brenton Sconce (00:19:28):
tough day,
Brenton Sconce (00:19:28):
sometimes that's all we need to kind of take the next breath and move forward.
Rachel Casey (00:19:34):
A hundred percent.
Rachel Casey (00:19:35):
He said it so well.
Rachel Casey (00:19:36):
It's like there is another level of connection.
Rachel Casey (00:19:39):
And that's it's always nice when you find someone who likes the same stuff as you.
Rachel Casey (00:19:45):
And it's really easy to.
Rachel Casey (00:19:47):
Yeah, that means you have a personal like favorite meme that you've made.
Brenton Sconce (00:19:50):
Oh, that's a good question.
Brenton Sconce (00:19:52):
The.
Rachel Casey (00:19:53):
i mean michael scott is probably in like anything with him yeah yeah i was like any
Brenton Sconce (00:19:57):
of his stuff i really like so i think the two that just pop to the front of mind
Brenton Sconce (00:20:01):
there's the one where michael is jumping on the train and in the actual episode
Brenton Sconce (00:20:04):
he's like i'm running away from my responsibilities and it feels good and i mean
Brenton Sconce (00:20:08):
that into running away from my alcoholism and it feels good um but just knowing
Brenton Sconce (00:20:12):
like his cadence and how he says it like i can hear it and i don't know that one
Brenton Sconce (00:20:17):
just strikes me as super funny but also like
Brenton Sconce (00:20:19):
oddly you know poignant and deep and then the other one is when Creed gets on the
Brenton Sconce (00:20:25):
bus like when he's hitchhiking and he's like playing hooky from work and uh he sees
Brenton Sconce (00:20:31):
everyone on like all the work you know his his co-workers on the bus and he's like
Brenton Sconce (00:20:35):
oh my god I memed that one too and was like I think it was a dry January one where
Brenton Sconce (00:20:39):
I was like I'm taking a break from dry January and then sees like the recovery
Brenton Sconce (00:20:43):
community and it's like oh
Brenton Sconce (00:20:44):
Yeah.
Brenton Sconce (00:20:45):
I don't know.
Brenton Sconce (00:20:45):
That one was super fun to make too.
Rachel Casey (00:20:48):
Creed is a great one too.
Rachel Casey (00:20:50):
You can put that with any like AA meeting and he's like, what am I doing here?
Rachel Casey (00:20:54):
Like your first day sober.
Rachel Casey (00:20:55):
Like what am I doing?
Rachel Casey (00:20:58):
Creed is my husband's favorite.
Brenton Sconce (00:20:58):
Yeah.
Brenton Sconce (00:20:59):
He's like the old guy.
Brenton Sconce (00:20:59):
Yeah.
Brenton Sconce (00:21:00):
The old guy in the meetings.
Brenton Sconce (00:21:01):
Right.
Brenton Sconce (00:21:01):
That's like just had this insane life and just talks about it or doesn't.
Brenton Sconce (00:21:05):
And you know, he'll say like little bits and you're like, who is this guy?
Brenton Sconce (00:21:09):
Like that's Creed.
Rachel Casey (00:21:10):
yep yeah for sure and then you even have like you could the kelly romance you know
Rachel Casey (00:21:16):
there's always studying treatment centers on the back end because i'm going back to
Rachel Casey (00:21:20):
school too i laughed so hard at the chapter it's like loving the treatment center
Rachel Casey (00:21:25):
and it's like you know you have to watch out for it because it will technically
Rachel Casey (00:21:30):
it's so this is where it gets serious it can be a sub addiction but on the initial
Rachel Casey (00:21:34):
i'm like oh god you know having to keep these kids apart like no you can't
Rachel Casey (00:21:39):
can't just substitute drinking for yeah and there's a healthy boundary to it i mean
Rachel Casey (00:21:45):
like if someone has done that and it works i know but typically at least on the
Rachel Casey (00:21:51):
school side they say yep when you're in your first like 90 days you're not supposed
Rachel Casey (00:21:56):
to like be in this intense relationship and finding love with someone else who's in
Rachel Casey (00:22:00):
rehab and yeah yeah
Rachel Casey (00:22:02):
uh i again that's how i don't know how my husband and i made it because it we were
Rachel Casey (00:22:07):
both alcoholics you know so to uh have not one of us be like well you know let's
Rachel Casey (00:22:14):
just go back or something happened of that nature we feel very lucky well well to
Brenton Sconce (00:22:20):
your point about loving the treatment center i did a meme based on that with
Brenton Sconce (00:22:23):
michael scott where it's like they tell you not to date you know for the first six
Brenton Sconce (00:22:26):
months or a year and i just did date mike you know where he's like nice to meet me
Brenton Sconce (00:22:30):
like
Brenton Sconce (00:22:31):
I was like, this is me stepping out of rehab.
Rachel Casey (00:22:33):
So how do you like incorporate faith in with all this?
Rachel Casey (00:22:36):
So how do you stay sober?
Rachel Casey (00:22:37):
If you went through the treatment center and you said,
Rachel Casey (00:22:40):
you know,
Rachel Casey (00:22:41):
you can come back whenever,
Rachel Casey (00:22:42):
are you going through like 12 step based?
Rachel Casey (00:22:45):
Are you just kind of staying in a different community?
Rachel Casey (00:22:48):
Like how do you stay sober?
Brenton Sconce (00:22:49):
Yeah.
Brenton Sconce (00:22:50):
So when I first got out of the treatment center,
Brenton Sconce (00:22:53):
I really was,
Brenton Sconce (00:22:54):
I knew I was desperate enough to,
Brenton Sconce (00:22:55):
to
Brenton Sconce (00:22:57):
Look and consider like every option out there.
Brenton Sconce (00:23:01):
And so I had,
Brenton Sconce (00:23:02):
you know,
Brenton Sconce (00:23:02):
the same buddy of mine that dropped me off at the center was like,
Brenton Sconce (00:23:06):
hey,
Brenton Sconce (00:23:06):
you know,
Brenton Sconce (00:23:06):
start coming to meetings with me.
Brenton Sconce (00:23:07):
So I did I did that.
Brenton Sconce (00:23:09):
So that in conjunction with the stuff at the treatment center that I did for,
Brenton Sconce (00:23:13):
you know,
Brenton Sconce (00:23:14):
the next nine months or whatever,
Brenton Sconce (00:23:15):
really kind of launched and laid that foundation for me.
Brenton Sconce (00:23:19):
for the first year, year and a half of everything.
Brenton Sconce (00:23:21):
And so,
Brenton Sconce (00:23:22):
yeah,
Brenton Sconce (00:23:22):
I did the 12 steps,
Brenton Sconce (00:23:24):
you know,
Brenton Sconce (00:23:24):
has have a sponsor,
Brenton Sconce (00:23:25):
I still go to meetings when I can,
Brenton Sconce (00:23:27):
it's not as often as it used to be.
Brenton Sconce (00:23:29):
And part of that is
Brenton Sconce (00:23:31):
yeah,
Brenton Sconce (00:23:31):
the community that I've developed and that I surround myself with now is totally
Brenton Sconce (00:23:35):
different.
Brenton Sconce (00:23:36):
And coming out of, you know, out of rehab, it's a clean slate.
Brenton Sconce (00:23:39):
There's like nobody there.
Brenton Sconce (00:23:41):
So AA and, you know, the rooms of recovery was kind of my community to start out with.
Brenton Sconce (00:23:45):
And so,
Brenton Sconce (00:23:45):
yeah,
Brenton Sconce (00:23:46):
I went that route for a long time and was going to meetings very often and
Brenton Sconce (00:23:50):
consistently.
Brenton Sconce (00:23:50):
And then outside of that,
Brenton Sconce (00:23:52):
once I started office recovery and,
Brenton Sconce (00:23:53):
you know,
Brenton Sconce (00:23:54):
started connecting with folks,
Brenton Sconce (00:23:55):
I mean,
Brenton Sconce (00:23:55):
that's been,
Brenton Sconce (00:23:56):
nobody's more surprised than I am at how,
Brenton Sconce (00:23:59):
amazing the recovery and the sober community has been online.
Brenton Sconce (00:24:02):
I never was a social media guy prior to office recovery.
Brenton Sconce (00:24:05):
I mean, I had social media accounts.
Brenton Sconce (00:24:07):
I've had Facebook since 2005.
Brenton Sconce (00:24:09):
I was in one of the test schools before they launched nationwide when there was the
Brenton Sconce (00:24:14):
wall and everything.
Brenton Sconce (00:24:15):
And
Rachel Casey (00:24:15):
Oh, I forgot about that.
Rachel Casey (00:24:16):
Yeah.
Brenton Sconce (00:24:17):
Yeah.
Brenton Sconce (00:24:17):
So I've had it for a very long time.
Brenton Sconce (00:24:21):
But launching Office Recovery and then starting to connect with people and getting
Brenton Sconce (00:24:25):
these awesome connections and conversations going has been so helpful for me.
Brenton Sconce (00:24:30):
And then just constantly thinking and creating content for Office Recovery very
Brenton Sconce (00:24:34):
much keeps me in the mind space of recovery all the time.
Brenton Sconce (00:24:37):
And then adding on top of that fitness and working out and
Brenton Sconce (00:24:42):
I'm surrounding myself with like-minded people,
Brenton Sconce (00:24:44):
even folks who still have a healthy relationship with alcohol,
Brenton Sconce (00:24:47):
but their pursuits and their life goals match up more with mine.
Brenton Sconce (00:24:51):
So just surrounding myself with folks like that has been huge too.
Brenton Sconce (00:24:55):
So yeah, I'm in a great place.
Brenton Sconce (00:24:57):
I went back to school.
Brenton Sconce (00:24:58):
I'm graduating in June.
Brenton Sconce (00:25:00):
Congratulations.
Rachel Casey (00:25:01):
That's huge.
Brenton Sconce (00:25:02):
Exactly one month.
Brenton Sconce (00:25:03):
I'll be walking.
Brenton Sconce (00:25:04):
Oh, that's awesome.
Brenton Sconce (00:25:06):
I've never walked to get a diploma or degree.
Brenton Sconce (00:25:10):
So I was homeschooled in high school.
Brenton Sconce (00:25:13):
That doesn't count.
Brenton Sconce (00:25:14):
Like you're walking to the living room.
Brenton Sconce (00:25:16):
And then my bachelor's was all online and I wasn't going to fly to Chicago to walk
Brenton Sconce (00:25:22):
the aisle there.
Brenton Sconce (00:25:23):
And so here I'm going to walk and get my master's.
Brenton Sconce (00:25:25):
So that'll be fun.
Brenton Sconce (00:25:26):
That's exciting.
Brenton Sconce (00:25:27):
Yeah.
Brenton Sconce (00:25:28):
Like going back to school,
Brenton Sconce (00:25:29):
I did things like I wrote a kid's book that I'm working on getting published right
Brenton Sconce (00:25:33):
now.
Brenton Sconce (00:25:33):
And then
Brenton Sconce (00:25:34):
office recovery and then the the bear crawl training stuff like all of these things
Brenton Sconce (00:25:38):
are like never would have happened in in active addiction like outside of recovery
Brenton Sconce (00:25:44):
there's no way any of this would have have come about so and what's the bear if you
Rachel Casey (00:25:48):
want to segue into how's the bear crawl starting or how did that start because
Rachel Casey (00:25:52):
that's second right yeah so office recovery then now it's bear crawl which i
Brenton Sconce (00:25:57):
haven't really mentioned that yet
Brenton Sconce (00:25:59):
Yeah, so office recovery was, yeah, that's kind of my baby, my main thing.
Brenton Sconce (00:26:04):
The Bloomsday Bear Crawl,
Brenton Sconce (00:26:06):
I came up with the idea about a year ago,
Brenton Sconce (00:26:10):
but we just officially launched like on Instagram and YouTube and Facebook this
Brenton Sconce (00:26:15):
month.
Brenton Sconce (00:26:17):
And what it is,
Brenton Sconce (00:26:18):
is it's a year-long fundraising campaign to raise funds for aftercare scholarships
Brenton Sconce (00:26:24):
for the treatment center that I was a part of,
Brenton Sconce (00:26:26):
which is Royal Life Center.
Brenton Sconce (00:26:28):
Um, so I was a recipient of a scholarship.
Brenton Sconce (00:26:31):
My case manager, when I was in detox was like, Hey, we think you should go to, to aftercare.
Brenton Sconce (00:26:37):
And I couldn't, there's no way I could afford it.
Brenton Sconce (00:26:39):
Like it's crazy expensive and my insurance wouldn't do it.
Brenton Sconce (00:26:43):
Well,
Brenton Sconce (00:26:43):
unbeknownst to me,
Brenton Sconce (00:26:44):
she apparently put my name in for a scholarship and I was offered this scholarship
Brenton Sconce (00:26:50):
and it covered 100% of my aftercare,
Brenton Sconce (00:26:52):
my 12 weeks with them.
Rachel Casey (00:26:53):
Probably a huge difference.
Brenton Sconce (00:26:55):
Yeah, huge, huge difference because you've got detox and residential, which...
Brenton Sconce (00:26:59):
kind of starts to tear up the,
Brenton Sconce (00:27:02):
the foundation a little bit,
Brenton Sconce (00:27:03):
but really it's like all that aftercare that lays the foundation.
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It really solidifies what you like,
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what,
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you know,
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your,
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your mind starts becoming clear enough to actually start to take in things and
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understand and remember them and you start to build community with people like
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actual community.
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Cause you're kind of out living life now,
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not just in your,
Brenton Sconce (00:27:23):
you know,
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little bubble in the treatment center.
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Um,
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So it's absolutely vital,
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I think,
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and important for folks if they can get into some sort of aftercare program if
Brenton Sconce (00:27:32):
they're going the treatment center route.
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So anyway,
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so I was like,
Brenton Sconce (00:27:36):
okay,
Brenton Sconce (00:27:37):
I want to do something and give back to the community that's been so incredibly
Brenton Sconce (00:27:41):
helpful for me.
Brenton Sconce (00:27:42):
So I'm doing the year-long fundraiser.
Brenton Sconce (00:27:43):
It culminates in May of 2026 with me bear crawling the Bloomsday Race, which is 7.46 miles.
Brenton Sconce (00:27:51):
Um,
Brenton Sconce (00:27:54):
uh,
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in May,
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I'll be bear crawling the whole thing and the whole thing will just be a giant
Brenton Sconce (00:27:58):
fundraiser and all the donations,
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a hundred percent of the donations are going to go into the scholarship and be able
Brenton Sconce (00:28:04):
to help out as many people as possible,
Brenton Sconce (00:28:07):
be able to get into aftercare.
Brenton Sconce (00:28:08):
So that's what the Bloomsday Bear Crawl is.
Brenton Sconce (00:28:11):
And yeah, and it's been fantastic.
Brenton Sconce (00:28:13):
So I'm, you know, I'm training every day and it's, it's absolutely brutal.
Brenton Sconce (00:28:18):
Um,
Brenton Sconce (00:28:19):
but I'm, I'm super excited for it.
Brenton Sconce (00:28:21):
And I think,
Brenton Sconce (00:28:21):
I think it's going to be really,
Brenton Sconce (00:28:23):
really cool to see,
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you know,
Brenton Sconce (00:28:25):
the folks that we get to help out and yeah.
Brenton Sconce (00:28:27):
And then just have a crazy adventure along the way.
Rachel Casey (00:28:30):
I think that's awesome because people,
Rachel Casey (00:28:32):
and that's another thing that when I was in school and one of the classes and the
Rachel Casey (00:28:37):
ethics class,
Rachel Casey (00:28:38):
we went to interview other counselors and talk about like the harder parts of the
Rachel Casey (00:28:43):
job.
Rachel Casey (00:28:45):
And they, without doubt said,
Rachel Casey (00:28:47):
getting payment or getting someone approved because like they're one question off
Rachel Casey (00:28:52):
and then the insurance company won't cover the recovery treatment or they won't
Rachel Casey (00:28:57):
cover like you said the aftercare like they'll only approve sometimes as little as
Rachel Casey (00:29:01):
like seven days some people as much as 90 but i think 90 is about the max like i
Rachel Casey (00:29:08):
haven't really heard of anything more than 90 and as you and i probably know
Rachel Casey (00:29:13):
it that there is so much growth i would say even the first six months or year
Rachel Casey (00:29:18):
honestly like getting in your routine and your foundation because we talk what it's
Rachel Casey (00:29:24):
30 days to build a habit right no so we're doing two things we're unlearning an
Rachel Casey (00:29:28):
addiction which is a chemical balance in our brain that tells us this substance
Rachel Casey (00:29:34):
will make us feel good even though it's not going to
Rachel Casey (00:29:37):
and so we're fighting that dragon all at the same time trying to build these new
Rachel Casey (00:29:42):
habits and it it is it's the best experience but it is hard and having
Rachel Casey (00:29:50):
tools people like-minded individuals around you it's so important i think like it
Rachel Casey (00:29:57):
is and not everyone i talked about i had my house i had a car a lot of people when
Rachel Casey (00:30:04):
they enter recovery that's not the sentences they're always saying they might have
Rachel Casey (00:30:08):
nothing they might have pushed away the family and friends so like
Rachel Casey (00:30:13):
the only chance they have at recovery is to get support from other people so that's
Rachel Casey (00:30:19):
i can't wait to share and promote this so i didn't even know the whole backstory of
Rachel Casey (00:30:23):
the year campaign and i think that's incredible no it's it's going to be fantastic
Brenton Sconce (00:30:28):
and yeah the you know it takes a minimum of 90 days for your dopamine levels to
Brenton Sconce (00:30:32):
begin to reset like let's begin to reset and so even if you're out of treatment
Brenton Sconce (00:30:37):
even if you get the full max 90 days
Brenton Sconce (00:30:40):
you're all of a sudden back out in your home or on the street or whatever the case is.
Brenton Sconce (00:30:44):
But now all of a sudden,
Brenton Sconce (00:30:46):
you know,
Brenton Sconce (00:30:46):
you're at this level,
Brenton Sconce (00:30:47):
you're used to being at this level,
Brenton Sconce (00:30:49):
but you have no tools,
Brenton Sconce (00:30:50):
you have no resources,
Brenton Sconce (00:30:51):
no community on how to manage and start to find joy in the things that we're meant
Brenton Sconce (00:30:56):
to find joy in that are supposed to be the actual dopamine spikes.
Brenton Sconce (00:31:00):
And so, I mean, what are you going to do?
Brenton Sconce (00:31:02):
Like you don't have to surround yourself with other people.
Rachel Casey (00:31:04):
Like you can find dopamine spikes and it can, it's so easy to slip out.
Rachel Casey (00:31:09):
and yeah because when you're in a treatment center right like you're you're in
Rachel Casey (00:31:14):
you're kind you don't unless you do ama you're not leaving and that's not how life
Rachel Casey (00:31:18):
is we have temptation around us every single day like
Rachel Casey (00:31:21):
i loved loved one of my sponsees used to her parents were just scared about her
Rachel Casey (00:31:26):
going back to her apartment being like what if you find a bottle there what if you
Rachel Casey (00:31:31):
like come across alcohol like they just they were so happy to have their daughter
Rachel Casey (00:31:34):
back and yeah she's like pulls out her her id she pulls out her keys she's like if
Rachel Casey (00:31:40):
i wanted a drink i can go get one like having it in front of me is not gonna make
Rachel Casey (00:31:44):
me go jump into a fountain like i have the choice every single day
Rachel Casey (00:31:49):
I can go seek it out if I choose.
Rachel Casey (00:31:51):
And I choose not to because it was destroying my, I'm alcoholic.
Rachel Casey (00:31:54):
I'm, once I take a sip, I'm going to keep going.
Rachel Casey (00:31:58):
And I'm like,
Rachel Casey (00:31:59):
yeah,
Rachel Casey (00:31:59):
that,
Rachel Casey (00:32:00):
that,
Rachel Casey (00:32:00):
the aftercare is what teaches you that until you get to a place where when you see
Rachel Casey (00:32:05):
alcohol,
Rachel Casey (00:32:06):
you're not going to,
Rachel Casey (00:32:07):
you have to learn how to not be triggered or it takes time.
Brenton Sconce (00:32:11):
It does take time.
Brenton Sconce (00:32:12):
Yeah, absolutely.
Brenton Sconce (00:32:13):
Yeah.
Brenton Sconce (00:32:13):
So any way that we can give back in donations,
Brenton Sconce (00:32:17):
I'm expecting the donation platform to open up in June.
Brenton Sconce (00:32:20):
And so then that's when I'll start accepting fundraising and start promoting the
Brenton Sconce (00:32:25):
actual fundraising aspect of it.
Brenton Sconce (00:32:27):
And so that's when that will come about.
Brenton Sconce (00:32:28):
But yeah,
Brenton Sconce (00:32:29):
I'm just excited to see what we get to do as a recovery community to help other
Brenton Sconce (00:32:34):
folks get like an actual chance at getting their life back or starting a new life
Brenton Sconce (00:32:40):
or whatever the case might be,
Brenton Sconce (00:32:42):
but getting an opportunity,
Brenton Sconce (00:32:43):
like just the opportunity to do something.
Brenton Sconce (00:32:46):
So that's what I'm super, super excited about.
Rachel Casey (00:32:49):
That sounds, and there's just a lot, there's a lot of laughter too.
Rachel Casey (00:32:53):
And like you said,
Rachel Casey (00:32:54):
there's,
Rachel Casey (00:32:56):
so if you had to like share right now with someone struggling,
Rachel Casey (00:33:00):
who's listening or thinking about getting sober and they're like that teetotall,
Rachel Casey (00:33:04):
what would you have for advice or what would you say?
Brenton Sconce (00:33:09):
Yeah,
Brenton Sconce (00:33:09):
I think it takes a lot of honesty for someone to take a good hard look at
Brenton Sconce (00:33:14):
themselves and figure out.
Brenton Sconce (00:33:15):
And I think if you're asking the question,
Brenton Sconce (00:33:17):
and I said this to a friend of mine just recently,
Brenton Sconce (00:33:19):
if you're asking the question,
Brenton Sconce (00:33:21):
do I have a problem with alcohol,
Brenton Sconce (00:33:22):
odds are
Brenton Sconce (00:33:23):
You probably do,
Brenton Sconce (00:33:25):
because I think folks with a healthy relationship with alcohol don't ask that
Brenton Sconce (00:33:29):
question.
Brenton Sconce (00:33:30):
They don't have to.
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It doesn't even cross their mind.
Brenton Sconce (00:33:32):
It's like leaving a glass of water on the counter.
Brenton Sconce (00:33:35):
And so I think if if you're listening to this podcast,
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if you're,
Brenton Sconce (00:33:39):
you know,
Brenton Sconce (00:33:40):
Googling,
Brenton Sconce (00:33:41):
you know,
Brenton Sconce (00:33:41):
am I an alcoholic or any of those kinds of things that there's even the slightest
Brenton Sconce (00:33:45):
like hint that that you might have a problem.
Brenton Sconce (00:33:48):
That is your moment of clarity.
Brenton Sconce (00:33:50):
And that's where you need to take an honest look and say, OK, well, what level is this at?
Brenton Sconce (00:33:56):
Like,
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do I need to go to the recovery,
Brenton Sconce (00:33:58):
you know,
Brenton Sconce (00:33:59):
the rehab treatment center route because I just can't control it myself?
Brenton Sconce (00:34:03):
Do I need to get into a program and just start visiting different ones and go to
Brenton Sconce (00:34:06):
like,
Brenton Sconce (00:34:07):
I mean,
Brenton Sconce (00:34:08):
a million there's a million different support groups out there for all different
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types of people.
Brenton Sconce (00:34:13):
like walk into a meeting,
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see how it feels,
Brenton Sconce (00:34:15):
try a different meeting,
Brenton Sconce (00:34:16):
see how it feels,
Brenton Sconce (00:34:17):
hop on the,
Brenton Sconce (00:34:18):
the,
Brenton Sconce (00:34:19):
you know,
Brenton Sconce (00:34:19):
sober curious or the sober community on social media and just start meeting people.
Brenton Sconce (00:34:24):
And you're going to hear stories all over the map of,
Brenton Sconce (00:34:27):
you know,
Brenton Sconce (00:34:27):
folks that just knew it wasn't good for them.
Brenton Sconce (00:34:29):
And so they stopped all the way up to,
Brenton Sconce (00:34:31):
you know,
Brenton Sconce (00:34:32):
folks in and out of prison for decades and,
Brenton Sconce (00:34:34):
and now they're sober.
Brenton Sconce (00:34:36):
And so like, you'll, you'll meet people that way.
Brenton Sconce (00:34:39):
I think the first thing is you honestly have to just assess,
Brenton Sconce (00:34:43):
at what level is alcohol playing in my life?
Brenton Sconce (00:34:46):
And then following that,
Brenton Sconce (00:34:47):
your next step is really thinking,
Brenton Sconce (00:34:49):
okay,
Brenton Sconce (00:34:50):
what's the next right step that I need to take to really recover myself and to
Brenton Sconce (00:34:55):
become,
Brenton Sconce (00:34:55):
you know,
Brenton Sconce (00:34:56):
it's cliche,
Brenton Sconce (00:34:57):
but the best version of myself.
Brenton Sconce (00:34:59):
And is that treatment center?
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Is that meetings?
Brenton Sconce (00:35:01):
Is that just a supportive community that'll walk with me as I drop,
Brenton Sconce (00:35:05):
you know,
Brenton Sconce (00:35:06):
alcohol out of my life?
Brenton Sconce (00:35:07):
I think those are kind of the first next steps that somebody would need to do.
Brenton Sconce (00:35:12):
And I mean,
Brenton Sconce (00:35:13):
I say this all the time on my social medias,
Brenton Sconce (00:35:15):
but if anyone is listening to this,
Brenton Sconce (00:35:17):
if you ever want to talk,
Brenton Sconce (00:35:18):
ever want advice,
Brenton Sconce (00:35:20):
I don't know what I can give you for advice,
Brenton Sconce (00:35:23):
but I'll talk to you.
Brenton Sconce (00:35:24):
I'll listen to your story and I'll be there for you.
Brenton Sconce (00:35:29):
if we can walk through this journey together, I'm here with you guys.
Brenton Sconce (00:35:32):
And so that's, you know, I think that's what I would say for kind of initial first steps.
Brenton Sconce (00:35:37):
If anyone's questioning or wondering if they've got a problem is
Brenton Sconce (00:35:41):
kind of follow that pathway.
Brenton Sconce (00:35:44):
And don't lose hope.
Brenton Sconce (00:35:45):
Like if you're waking up, you know, you woke up this morning, there's hope.
Brenton Sconce (00:35:50):
Like you wake up tomorrow, there's hope.
Brenton Sconce (00:35:52):
Like there's always an opportunity for you to take that next right step.
Brenton Sconce (00:35:56):
And don't be afraid to reach out.
Brenton Sconce (00:35:58):
I think a lot of folks,
Brenton Sconce (00:36:00):
the number one thing that folks deal with,
Brenton Sconce (00:36:02):
I think when it comes specifically to alcohol is shame.
Brenton Sconce (00:36:05):
And shame dissipates when stories are shared in safe spaces.
Brenton Sconce (00:36:10):
Share your story with me.
Brenton Sconce (00:36:12):
Find somebody you can share your story with,
Brenton Sconce (00:36:14):
someone you feel comfortable with that's not going to judge you.
Brenton Sconce (00:36:18):
And you'll be amazed at how the shame just disappears.
Brenton Sconce (00:36:22):
And there's such an incredible freedom in being able to share your story.
Brenton Sconce (00:36:26):
And you realize you're not alone.
Brenton Sconce (00:36:29):
You're not alone at all.
Brenton Sconce (00:36:30):
There are tons of us out here that would love to hold your hand and walk you through this.
Rachel Casey (00:36:36):
Absolutely.
Rachel Casey (00:36:38):
always say ditto on that.
Rachel Casey (00:36:39):
And I will even go the step further that,
Rachel Casey (00:36:43):
and I'm sure this is the same with you,
Rachel Casey (00:36:44):
that if someone reaches out to me and I am not able to like in that moment,
Rachel Casey (00:36:49):
take step,
Rachel Casey (00:36:50):
step aside.
Rachel Casey (00:36:51):
Cause I have a five-year-old like in life can be life.
Rachel Casey (00:36:53):
Like if someone reached out to you,
Rachel Casey (00:36:56):
while you were walking you know you're like i'm or doing this podcast right now
Rachel Casey (00:37:00):
what i will say is as soon as i see that text if i am not available i know someone
Rachel Casey (00:37:05):
else who is available and i can send you that resource or i will text them and i
Rachel Casey (00:37:09):
will i have at least 100 numbers in my phone right now of hey i am so grateful you
Rachel Casey (00:37:16):
reached out to me
Rachel Casey (00:37:17):
i am in the middle but i don't want you to wait to talk to someone let me get you
Rachel Casey (00:37:23):
in contact with this person or here's the nearest meeting to you i will do all the
Rachel Casey (00:37:28):
back work i will help you so
Rachel Casey (00:37:32):
I,
Rachel Casey (00:37:32):
I say that just to give a cushion of if someone did reach out to me and they're
Rachel Casey (00:37:37):
like,
Rachel Casey (00:37:37):
but you said on the podcast,
Rachel Casey (00:37:39):
you know,
Rachel Casey (00:37:39):
I'm like,
Rachel Casey (00:37:40):
okay,
Rachel Casey (00:37:41):
if I can 100%,
Rachel Casey (00:37:41):
I will,
Rachel Casey (00:37:43):
I've,
Rachel Casey (00:37:44):
I've literally stopped to take a call during coaching my son's soccer game.
Rachel Casey (00:37:49):
And again,
Rachel Casey (00:37:50):
and I took the minute I did my,
Rachel Casey (00:37:53):
I'm going to connect to you and I will a hundred percent stop the world to help.
Rachel Casey (00:37:58):
And I think anyone in recovery is that way.
Rachel Casey (00:38:00):
That's not just me.
Rachel Casey (00:38:01):
That is anyone who's been in those lows of lows in the feeling of addiction.
Rachel Casey (00:38:08):
Once they have time in sobriety, they're like,
Rachel Casey (00:38:12):
Anyone who's just curious, you're like, oh my God, it's like a secret.
Rachel Casey (00:38:14):
It's like, yes, no, no, no.
Rachel Casey (00:38:16):
It's like, but it's not a secret, but there is shame.
Rachel Casey (00:38:18):
And I think shame's what kind of makes it that secret.
Rachel Casey (00:38:22):
Yeah.
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Yeah.
Rachel Casey (00:38:24):
Man, could you imagine like Michael Scott running a treatment center?
Brenton Sconce (00:38:28):
Oh man,
Brenton Sconce (00:38:29):
that would be,
Brenton Sconce (00:38:30):
it would probably,
Brenton Sconce (00:38:32):
yeah,
Brenton Sconce (00:38:33):
it would be probably the most successful treatment center in the world.
Rachel Casey (00:38:36):
Yeah.
Rachel Casey (00:38:37):
Like he's just like the, the world's best alcoholic.
Rachel Casey (00:38:41):
right he got the mug and everything that would be i love the world's best boss um
Rachel Casey (00:38:47):
yes well okay so what in the fact he bought it for himself yeah yeah exactly um
Rachel Casey (00:38:54):
like uh the jamaica trip would be a fun episode too of him coming back of like
Rachel Casey (00:38:59):
talking about all the meetings out there and instead like yeah uh except i think he
Rachel Casey (00:39:04):
brought back i'll call him that one it doesn't matter again
Brenton Sconce (00:39:07):
Yeah, he did.
Brenton Sconce (00:39:07):
He brought, yeah, he brought back rum for one of the gifts.
Brenton Sconce (00:39:10):
Yeah.
Brenton Sconce (00:39:11):
Yeah.
Rachel Casey (00:39:11):
And I laugh at stuff like that too.
Rachel Casey (00:39:13):
Cause even watching it on TV,
Rachel Casey (00:39:16):
watching someone get gifted that I'm like,
Rachel Casey (00:39:18):
it would have been gone that night.
Rachel Casey (00:39:19):
They're like when people are like, oh yeah, I'll just save this.
Rachel Casey (00:39:23):
Like it was someone recently,
Rachel Casey (00:39:25):
we just talked about when we see someone has a mini bar at home and we're like,
Rachel Casey (00:39:29):
how do you keep it stocked?
Brenton Sconce (00:39:30):
Like, yeah.
Brenton Sconce (00:39:31):
Okay.
Brenton Sconce (00:39:31):
Yeah.
Brenton Sconce (00:39:32):
I'm the same way.
Brenton Sconce (00:39:33):
Like it blows my mind.
Brenton Sconce (00:39:34):
Like, oh yeah.
Brenton Sconce (00:39:35):
Go places.
Brenton Sconce (00:39:36):
And there'll be like,
Brenton Sconce (00:39:37):
I mean, anything like that.
Brenton Sconce (00:39:39):
a wine cabinet like a mini bar like any of that i'm like so you they just like sits
Brenton Sconce (00:39:43):
there like you know you don't think about it all the time yeah it's a while yeah uh
Brenton Sconce (00:39:50):
but yeah there's that one um and then the other with the office when it's the
Brenton Sconce (00:39:54):
christmas party and he's like oh my god you think this is enough to get 15 people
Brenton Sconce (00:39:58):
plastered and it's like 15 bottles like 15 uh you know half gallons of vodka and
Brenton Sconce (00:40:03):
the but the the worker guy's delivery is like so good he's just like
Brenton Sconce (00:40:08):
15 bottles of vodka?
Brenton Sconce (00:40:09):
Yeah, that should do it.
Rachel Casey (00:40:11):
That didn't even stay.
Rachel Casey (00:40:12):
Oh, yeah.
Rachel Casey (00:40:12):
And I think that's one where, yeah, I was like, to me, I'm like, is that enough?
Rachel Casey (00:40:17):
Like, that's like one per person.
Rachel Casey (00:40:20):
So, okay, like, I guess.
Brenton Sconce (00:40:22):
Well, Meredith does catch her hair on fire in that episode.
Rachel Casey (00:40:25):
No, that's fine.
Rachel Casey (00:40:26):
She looks like she was, oh yeah, because she also has the alcoholic.
Rachel Casey (00:40:29):
And the way that they do it in that episode,
Rachel Casey (00:40:32):
probably not the best way to like call someone out,
Rachel Casey (00:40:35):
but they are semi-supportive.
Rachel Casey (00:40:36):
But that is not what it will be like if you tell someone you have a problem.
Rachel Casey (00:40:41):
It's usually pretty kept under.
Rachel Casey (00:40:44):
And honestly,
Rachel Casey (00:40:45):
the one thing I think in recovery I found out is not as many people care as I
Rachel Casey (00:40:49):
thought.
Rachel Casey (00:40:50):
And, you know, we have this lie that we tell ourselves with the alcohol that like,
Rachel Casey (00:40:55):
this attention everyone's gonna know people listen people don't yeah that is the
Rachel Casey (00:41:01):
that is the the ego that's everything that comes with that and again these are
Rachel Casey (00:41:06):
things you learn after getting sober or you already know uh i don't i don't even
Rachel Casey (00:41:10):
know who's listening other than i do know my mom listens and yeah actually i don't
Rachel Casey (00:41:15):
even know i think she's watched the office i'm like i don't know i watched that
Rachel Casey (00:41:21):
Like,
Rachel Casey (00:41:21):
cause I was old enough that it,
Rachel Casey (00:41:22):
that was like something I watched that in my early or my late teens,
Rachel Casey (00:41:26):
early twenties.
Rachel Casey (00:41:27):
But anyways, it's just, I think that's a classic.
Rachel Casey (00:41:30):
It never goes out of style.
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Yeah.
Rachel Casey (00:41:31):
What's the best way for people to connect with you?
Rachel Casey (00:41:34):
So you have the office, but I'm very intrigued by the, the bear crawl.
Brenton Sconce (00:41:38):
The name of the race is the Bloomsday run or Bloomsday race.
Rachel Casey (00:41:42):
That's going to be your focus now.
Rachel Casey (00:41:43):
Kind of right.
Rachel Casey (00:41:43):
For the next year.
Brenton Sconce (00:41:45):
Yeah.
Brenton Sconce (00:41:45):
I mean,
Brenton Sconce (00:41:45):
I'll do,
Brenton Sconce (00:41:46):
I'll,
Brenton Sconce (00:41:46):
I'll still do both office recovery and,
Brenton Sconce (00:41:48):
and Bloomsday,
Brenton Sconce (00:41:49):
but definitely focus will shift a little bit towards the Bloomsday over the next
Brenton Sconce (00:41:52):
year.
Brenton Sconce (00:41:52):
But yeah, so easiest way to get ahold of me is Instagram from my Instagram page.
Brenton Sconce (00:41:57):
You can find my emails and stuff like that to contact me,
Brenton Sconce (00:41:59):
but it's just at office recovery is kind of the main hub.
Brenton Sconce (00:42:03):
And then at the Bloomsday bear crawl is the other one.
Brenton Sconce (00:42:07):
And it's just, that's probably the easiest way or on Facebook, same thing.
Brenton Sconce (00:42:10):
You just search Bloomsday bear crawl.
Brenton Sconce (00:42:12):
or Office Recovery and I'm on there as well.
Rachel Casey (00:42:15):
I will have those links in the bio too.
Rachel Casey (00:42:17):
So that way people can easily find it and click on it.
Rachel Casey (00:42:21):
People are all about, again, we talk about that.
Rachel Casey (00:42:23):
You got to get that window.
Rachel Casey (00:42:25):
You got to make it easy.
Rachel Casey (00:42:27):
I don't want to have to do a lot of clicks.
Rachel Casey (00:42:28):
So I make sure it's all in the show notes and it's all able to be accessed.
Rachel Casey (00:42:32):
Yeah.
Rachel Casey (00:42:34):
And there's merch too that you're selling and is the best way you can just go
Rachel Casey (00:42:37):
through the Instagram site and get,
Rachel Casey (00:42:40):
how do you purchase merch?
Brenton Sconce (00:42:42):
Yeah, I've got a link in my bio for office recovery.
Brenton Sconce (00:42:45):
And then I've got merch coming probably in June for the Bloomsday Bear Crawl as well.
Brenton Sconce (00:42:50):
So sweet hats like this, t-shirts like this, and a bunch of other stuff.
Brenton Sconce (00:42:54):
Colin and I will be getting one.
Brenton Sconce (00:42:55):
So yeah.
Brenton Sconce (00:42:56):
And the great thing about that too is proceeds from all those,
Brenton Sconce (00:42:59):
all the merch is going to go right into the donation funds.
Brenton Sconce (00:43:02):
So
Brenton Sconce (00:43:02):
But yeah, so that's coming.
Brenton Sconce (00:43:04):
But yeah, you can get, I've got world's best sober mugs.
Brenton Sconce (00:43:07):
I've got a bunch of t-shirts and some that are like blatantly recovery related.
Brenton Sconce (00:43:12):
And then also some that are a lot more subtle that,
Brenton Sconce (00:43:15):
you know,
Brenton Sconce (00:43:15):
if you're just listening to this and,
Brenton Sconce (00:43:17):
and you just like kind of inspirational,
Brenton Sconce (00:43:19):
funny stuff,
Brenton Sconce (00:43:20):
there's stuff there for you too.
Brenton Sconce (00:43:22):
So just Instagram page and then click the link on the bio and,
Brenton Sconce (00:43:25):
and you'll make your way to my shop.
Rachel Casey (00:43:27):
I can also put the link for the shop in there too.
Rachel Casey (00:43:29):
So I'll make sure that it's, but, uh, it's always great to know too.
Rachel Casey (00:43:32):
You can start Instagram.
Rachel Casey (00:43:33):
I think even like link trees and whatnot,
Rachel Casey (00:43:35):
but there's Instagram's been better about adding more links.
Rachel Casey (00:43:39):
So, well, also I'm so grateful that you came on the podcast today.
Rachel Casey (00:43:42):
Like you have such great information to share, very relatable in this charity.
Rachel Casey (00:43:48):
I'm so excited to kind of watch that grow.
Rachel Casey (00:43:50):
And, uh, are people going to be like a part of it in person in June, or is there going to be.
Rachel Casey (00:43:56):
Like for the actual bear crawl, are people coming to watch or you haven't figured that out?
Brenton Sconce (00:44:00):
I mean, I don't know.
Brenton Sconce (00:44:01):
That would be kind of fun to do is to invite folks out to the race just to go with me.
Brenton Sconce (00:44:06):
I have had zero, zero responses on folks that want to bear crawl it with me.
Rachel Casey (00:44:11):
It's a hard thing, right?
Rachel Casey (00:44:12):
Like I'm seven miles.
Brenton Sconce (00:44:16):
7.46 miles.
Brenton Sconce (00:44:16):
Yeah.
Brenton Sconce (00:44:17):
So it's a 12K on your hands and feet the whole way with like crazy elevation changes.
Brenton Sconce (00:44:22):
I've asked a handful of folks to bear crawl it with me and everyone has given a very quick no.
Brenton Sconce (00:44:27):
That's totally okay.
Brenton Sconce (00:44:29):
But I'm going to have like live feeds up as it's going.
Brenton Sconce (00:44:33):
And yeah,
Brenton Sconce (00:44:33):
I mean,
Brenton Sconce (00:44:34):
if people want to,
Brenton Sconce (00:44:35):
you know,
Brenton Sconce (00:44:35):
show up and support in person,
Brenton Sconce (00:44:37):
that would be great.
Brenton Sconce (00:44:38):
And then, you know, I don't know where this thing's going to go.
Brenton Sconce (00:44:40):
If it becomes like an annual thing, I think that'd be super fun.
Brenton Sconce (00:44:43):
I think it'd be fun to do like
Brenton Sconce (00:44:45):
have recovery people each do a mile or do half a mile or a quarter mile or
Brenton Sconce (00:44:49):
something like that,
Brenton Sconce (00:44:50):
do stations like that,
Brenton Sconce (00:44:52):
you know,
Brenton Sconce (00:44:52):
and do,
Brenton Sconce (00:44:52):
but do the same kind of thing and raise funds again.
Brenton Sconce (00:44:54):
And so there's a whole, whole bunch of different ways we can go with it right now.
Brenton Sconce (00:44:58):
I'm just focused on this year,
Brenton Sconce (00:44:59):
you know,
Brenton Sconce (00:45:00):
training for it,
Brenton Sconce (00:45:01):
getting,
Brenton Sconce (00:45:01):
getting it done and,
Brenton Sconce (00:45:03):
and just raising as much as possible to help,
Brenton Sconce (00:45:06):
help folks.
Brenton Sconce (00:45:07):
So yeah, all that informational will be coming out more on the fundraising side in, in June.
Brenton Sconce (00:45:13):
and uh and for now yeah just if anyone's listening to this follow the the bloomsday
Brenton Sconce (00:45:17):
bear crawl share it just get the word out as much as possible it will be donations
Brenton Sconce (00:45:21):
will be open for both corporate sponsorship as well as individual donations so if
Brenton Sconce (00:45:27):
you also know of an organization that kind of vibes with that mission i'm looking
Brenton Sconce (00:45:32):
for corporate sponsors i will do marketing for you i'll wear your gear uh as i
Brenton Sconce (00:45:36):
crawl you know things like that to help promote your company
Brenton Sconce (00:45:39):
So I'd love to do like a company a mile and I'll just switch out at every mile
Brenton Sconce (00:45:44):
marker and,
Brenton Sconce (00:45:46):
you know,
Brenton Sconce (00:45:46):
rep a new company,
Brenton Sconce (00:45:47):
get you some publicity.
Rachel Casey (00:45:48):
It's for a good cause.
Rachel Casey (00:45:50):
It's helping.
Rachel Casey (00:45:51):
Yeah.
Rachel Casey (00:45:52):
I mean, I don't think you're going to have to.
Rachel Casey (00:45:54):
have to sell people on it too much.
Rachel Casey (00:45:56):
It's,
Rachel Casey (00:45:57):
I think the people that will vibe with you will happily help because again,
Rachel Casey (00:46:02):
it's the silver,
Rachel Casey (00:46:03):
we got to stick together.
Rachel Casey (00:46:04):
Like that's how we do recover.
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So yeah.
Rachel Casey (00:46:08):
And it's really cool that you're doing something like that.
Rachel Casey (00:46:10):
You also receive.
Rachel Casey (00:46:11):
So you're like, literally this isn't,
Rachel Casey (00:46:14):
some you're you're not see you're seeing one of the results of this so like
Rachel Casey (00:46:17):
literally close to home and you can speak to it and i think it doesn't even
Rachel Casey (00:46:23):
probably doesn't feel like a fundraiser when you believe in it that closely because
Rachel Casey (00:46:28):
it's not work to say you know it's going for a really good cause so again i'm
Rachel Casey (00:46:32):
excited to share i'm excited to watch if sober banter takes off we will totally
Rachel Casey (00:46:36):
jump in
Rachel Casey (00:46:38):
I know individual wise, but as corporate wise.
Rachel Casey (00:46:41):
So, um, well, this has been great.
Rachel Casey (00:46:43):
Thank you so much again for coming on and thank you to anyone listening to sober
Rachel Casey (00:46:47):
banter and listening to the man behind the office recovery and the bear crawl.
Rachel Casey (00:46:53):
So stay tuned for more.
Rachel Casey (00:46:55):
And thank you.
